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		<title>By: Marmaduke</title>
		<link>http://improveverywhere.com/2006/03/21/this-american-life-episode-to-rerun/comment-page-1/#comment-93160</link>
		<dc:creator>Marmaduke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Sep 2009 19:56:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey planning a freeze in Columbus Ohio. Let me know if you are interested!</description>
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		<title>By: Magilla</title>
		<link>http://improveverywhere.com/2006/03/21/this-american-life-episode-to-rerun/comment-page-4/#comment-2792</link>
		<dc:creator>Magilla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 May 2006 13:23:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t believe most of the comments I have just read.  I obviously live in a world of babies, who are so insecure that, rather than actually look at the facts, they have to wage an internet war against an &quot;enemy&quot; that they plainly have no idea about.  But I guess if it&#039;s good enough for G.W. Bush to do it in real life...

Perhaps you people need to get out and take a look around.  That&#039;s right.  Get off your lazy butt, get out the door, and have a look around.

What I see is *not* good reasoning, but emotional hyperbol, based on half-truths gleaned from an entertainment-oriented show.  It is clear that these are not real concerns for the people you mention, but your reaction to hide your own insecurities.  Because YOU don&#039;t have the guts to get out and have some clean fun, you seem to think that it&#039;s your place to stop everyone else.

I can&#039;t comment on the case about Ted specifically, but I have read virtually all the mission reports. Did you bother to look at GoPs reaction and comments?  I doubt it.  You know why I doubt it? Because they POSTED POSITIVE COMMENTS!! THEY ENJOYED IT!

DAMN!

People aren&#039;t ALL as fragile as you. Are you familiar with the way your immune system works? What doesn&#039;t kill you makes you stronger.  It&#039;s true. Every time you recover from an illness, your immune system becomes stronger.  You keep telling people to stop doing things because of &quot;what ifs&quot; and society becomes weaker, as people become less able to handle the unusual in the environment around them.  Eventually you&#039;ll have to ban all human interaction, in case you inadvertedly pass on a bacteria they may not be immune to, or offend them unknowingly and cause long-term damage.  In the end, you get a society not unlike in the movie &quot;Equilibrium&quot; - entirely sterile.

What fun.

So, I&#039;m sorry, but &quot;I&#039;d be offended, so you shouldn&#039;t be allowed to do that&quot; just doesn&#039;t work.  You don&#039;t like what&#039;s going on around you? Do what a NORMAL person does.  What? Oh yes, you aren&#039;t familiar with that, are you?  They walk away.  Easily solved.

Grow up, and find a cause that NEEDS your support.  Don&#039;t waste your time here by complaining.  Constructive criticism is fine, but your time is better spent flaming PETA for &quot;denying animals the right to die to become food if they wish&quot; than flaming people here.

No, I&#039;m not a part of this group.  Not being able to be in this group is probably the only reason I would ever wish that I lived in the USA...

IE: Rock on! If I get any new ideas, I shall send them your way!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t believe most of the comments I have just read.  I obviously live in a world of babies, who are so insecure that, rather than actually look at the facts, they have to wage an internet war against an &quot;enemy&quot; that they plainly have no idea about.  But I guess if it&#8217;s good enough for G.W. Bush to do it in real life&#8230;</p>
<p>Perhaps you people need to get out and take a look around.  That&#8217;s right.  Get off your lazy butt, get out the door, and have a look around.</p>
<p>What I see is *not* good reasoning, but emotional hyperbol, based on half-truths gleaned from an entertainment-oriented show.  It is clear that these are not real concerns for the people you mention, but your reaction to hide your own insecurities.  Because YOU don&#8217;t have the guts to get out and have some clean fun, you seem to think that it&#8217;s your place to stop everyone else.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t comment on the case about Ted specifically, but I have read virtually all the mission reports. Did you bother to look at GoPs reaction and comments?  I doubt it.  You know why I doubt it? Because they POSTED POSITIVE COMMENTS!! THEY ENJOYED IT!</p>
<p>DAMN!</p>
<p>People aren&#8217;t ALL as fragile as you. Are you familiar with the way your immune system works? What doesn&#8217;t kill you makes you stronger.  It&#8217;s true. Every time you recover from an illness, your immune system becomes stronger.  You keep telling people to stop doing things because of &quot;what ifs&quot; and society becomes weaker, as people become less able to handle the unusual in the environment around them.  Eventually you&#8217;ll have to ban all human interaction, in case you inadvertedly pass on a bacteria they may not be immune to, or offend them unknowingly and cause long-term damage.  In the end, you get a society not unlike in the movie &quot;Equilibrium&quot; &#8211; entirely sterile.</p>
<p>What fun.</p>
<p>So, I&#8217;m sorry, but &quot;I&#8217;d be offended, so you shouldn&#8217;t be allowed to do that&quot; just doesn&#8217;t work.  You don&#8217;t like what&#8217;s going on around you? Do what a NORMAL person does.  What? Oh yes, you aren&#8217;t familiar with that, are you?  They walk away.  Easily solved.</p>
<p>Grow up, and find a cause that NEEDS your support.  Don&#8217;t waste your time here by complaining.  Constructive criticism is fine, but your time is better spent flaming PETA for &quot;denying animals the right to die to become food if they wish&quot; than flaming people here.</p>
<p>No, I&#8217;m not a part of this group.  Not being able to be in this group is probably the only reason I would ever wish that I lived in the USA&#8230;</p>
<p>IE: Rock on! If I get any new ideas, I shall send them your way!</p>
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		<title>By: David Again</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Again</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Apr 2006 22:35:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can understand why the Pasha one was mean-spirited but I don&#039;t even get the Ted debate. The only reasons I&#039;ve seen so far is that &quot;What if he was a mass murderer, and killed 20 people because of you.&quot; They gave him free booze, a cake, and 250 dollars. What reason, besides lame, &quot;What if&quot;s do you have for saying it was mean spirited.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can understand why the Pasha one was mean-spirited but I don&#8217;t even get the Ted debate. The only reasons I&#8217;ve seen so far is that &#8220;What if he was a mass murderer, and killed 20 people because of you.&#8221; They gave him free booze, a cake, and 250 dollars. What reason, besides lame, &#8220;What if&#8221;s do you have for saying it was mean spirited.</p>
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		<title>By: mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Apr 2006 22:02:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve read every write up and watched all the videos on the site. The entire organization is just out to enjoy them selves, have fun, and create scenes where others can have fun too. I&#039;m going to link you to the actual reactions of the Ghosts of Pasha: http://www.improveverywhere.com/mission_view.php?mission_id=43 and you can clearly see that they enjoyed it and it was a fun time for all. You can&#039;t go around in life assuming that everyone in is a state of debility because then society wouldn&#039;t function. Your average person assumes that most people around him are also average, and that is all IE did during the Ted mission. If you read that missions write-up (http://www.improveverywhere.com/mission_view.php?mission_id=34) you&#039;ll notice how &#039;Ted&#039; was scouted out - he was sitting in the back of the bar with his FRIEND, and a pitcher of beer. You should also notice that he got lots of free beer and shots, and went out to smoke more than once, and played lots of pool too. Not the actions of someone in the process of being traumatized by any means.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve read every write up and watched all the videos on the site. The entire organization is just out to enjoy them selves, have fun, and create scenes where others can have fun too. I&#8217;m going to link you to the actual reactions of the Ghosts of Pasha: <a href="http://www.improveverywhere.com/mission_view.php?mission_id=43" rel="nofollow">http://www.improveverywhere.com/mission_view.php?mission_id=43</a> and you can clearly see that they enjoyed it and it was a fun time for all. You can&#8217;t go around in life assuming that everyone in is a state of debility because then society wouldn&#8217;t function. Your average person assumes that most people around him are also average, and that is all IE did during the Ted mission. If you read that missions write-up (<a href="http://www.improveverywhere.com/mission_view.php?mission_id=34" rel="nofollow">http://www.improveverywhere.com/mission_view.php?mission_id=34</a>) you&#8217;ll notice how &#8216;Ted&#8217; was scouted out &#8211; he was sitting in the back of the bar with his FRIEND, and a pitcher of beer. You should also notice that he got lots of free beer and shots, and went out to smoke more than once, and played lots of pool too. Not the actions of someone in the process of being traumatized by any means.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen</title>
		<link>http://improveverywhere.com/2006/03/21/this-american-life-episode-to-rerun/comment-page-3/#comment-2789</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Apr 2006 19:57:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would love to be a part of this organization.

Of course the highest aim would be to do pranks that have purely wondrous and brilliant positive effects on the lives of everyone involved, while still being absolutely humorous, and I think that&#039;s where yr headed.
Keep on!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would love to be a part of this organization.</p>
<p>Of course the highest aim would be to do pranks that have purely wondrous and brilliant positive effects on the lives of everyone involved, while still being absolutely humorous, and I think that&#8217;s where yr headed.<br />
Keep on!</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Apr 2006 19:26:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amen.

One point though, IE actually HAS done a mission where the singled out someone recently-- see last summer&#039;s beautiful Romantic Comedy Cab.  That one turned out really well, and the guy hasn&#039;t discovered it was a prank yet, as far as I can tell.  That was the point with Ted and GOP as well.  In fact, Ted didn&#039;t discover it was a prank until TAL called him.  He had never been to this site!  GOP found the site very quickly, but you can read in the mission report that they were figuring it would take months for GOP to find it... just so happens that the mission was very popular and forwarded around the internet very quickly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amen.</p>
<p>One point though, IE actually HAS done a mission where the singled out someone recently&#8211; see last summer&#8217;s beautiful Romantic Comedy Cab.  That one turned out really well, and the guy hasn&#8217;t discovered it was a prank yet, as far as I can tell.  That was the point with Ted and GOP as well.  In fact, Ted didn&#8217;t discover it was a prank until TAL called him.  He had never been to this site!  GOP found the site very quickly, but you can read in the mission report that they were figuring it would take months for GOP to find it&#8230; just so happens that the mission was very popular and forwarded around the internet very quickly.</p>
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		<title>By: Mirka</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mirka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Apr 2006 18:45:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My example was lame because Auguste&#039;s example was lame and I was trying to point that out. Yes, it&#039;s possible that anyone you interact with &lt;i&gt;might&lt;/i&gt; be unstable, but the vast majority of the time that&#039;s not going to be true. Do you go about your daily life meeting people and thinking &quot;this person might have a crippling social phobia&quot; or do you interact with them as if they probably don&#039;t? I&#039;m going to assume that you don&#039;t, and I think the same holds true for comedians creating a public performance. And yet people on this board are trying to say that making that assumption is irresponsible. I think that&#039;s ridiculous. 

I&#039;m not trying to justify anyone&#039;s past actions. I&#039;m trying to say that I understand that IE&#039;s &lt;i&gt;intentions&lt;/i&gt; were never to hurt or bully anyone, as people seem to think. When I brought up the time that has passed since these two missions, I wasn&#039;t trying to say &quot;he should be over it by now,&quot; I&#039;m saying that in the past year and a half, IE has not done any missions like this. 

What really bothers me about all this is the underlying implication that no one should do anything unexpected or out of the ordinary in public because SOMEONE might get offended or upset.

People who only know about IE through TAL have the impression that GoP was a victim because Ira Glass introduces the mission by saying it went &quot;terribly, terribly wrong.&quot; But the interviews that follow that don&#039;t support that judgement. The band members say things like &quot;We got Punk&#039;d&quot; and &quot;It was really odd&quot; and &quot;we answered it back with something real and at that point everybody in the room was on the same page.&quot; The person who was the most upset by it was Chris, the guitarist, and even he later says that it was A GIFT that helped him get over his childhood insecurities. That sounds like a good step for someone who aspires to be a rockstar. 

Does Ira Glass admit that it didn&#039;t go terribly, terribly wrong afterall? No, he goes on to introduce the Ted&#039;s Birthday mission by saying &quot;But not everybody&#039;s ready to make themselves at home in Charlie&#039;s world. Some people prefer their life just the way it is.&quot; This makes it sound a lot more sinister than it was ever meant to be. Later, after interviewing Charlie and Christopher (aka &quot;Ted&quot;), Ira Glass makes the claim that Christopher only &lt;i&gt;pretended&lt;/i&gt; to enjoy the experience (if that&#039;s true, why didn&#039;t Chris say it himself?) and then he goes on to say that IE is DANGEROUS because it want&#039;s people to leave their reality and join Charlie&#039;s. That conclusion is completely absurd. 

Please keep in mind: TAL is entertainment, too. Listen critically. Don&#039;t believe everything that radio hosts say. Some of the &quot;facts&quot; have been manipulated to give the story greater impact.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My example was lame because Auguste&#8217;s example was lame and I was trying to point that out. Yes, it&#8217;s possible that anyone you interact with <i>might</i> be unstable, but the vast majority of the time that&#8217;s not going to be true. Do you go about your daily life meeting people and thinking &#8220;this person might have a crippling social phobia&#8221; or do you interact with them as if they probably don&#8217;t? I&#8217;m going to assume that you don&#8217;t, and I think the same holds true for comedians creating a public performance. And yet people on this board are trying to say that making that assumption is irresponsible. I think that&#8217;s ridiculous. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not trying to justify anyone&#8217;s past actions. I&#8217;m trying to say that I understand that IE&#8217;s <i>intentions</i> were never to hurt or bully anyone, as people seem to think. When I brought up the time that has passed since these two missions, I wasn&#8217;t trying to say &#8220;he should be over it by now,&#8221; I&#8217;m saying that in the past year and a half, IE has not done any missions like this. </p>
<p>What really bothers me about all this is the underlying implication that no one should do anything unexpected or out of the ordinary in public because SOMEONE might get offended or upset.</p>
<p>People who only know about IE through TAL have the impression that GoP was a victim because Ira Glass introduces the mission by saying it went &#8220;terribly, terribly wrong.&#8221; But the interviews that follow that don&#8217;t support that judgement. The band members say things like &#8220;We got Punk&#8217;d&#8221; and &#8220;It was really odd&#8221; and &#8220;we answered it back with something real and at that point everybody in the room was on the same page.&#8221; The person who was the most upset by it was Chris, the guitarist, and even he later says that it was A GIFT that helped him get over his childhood insecurities. That sounds like a good step for someone who aspires to be a rockstar. </p>
<p>Does Ira Glass admit that it didn&#8217;t go terribly, terribly wrong afterall? No, he goes on to introduce the Ted&#8217;s Birthday mission by saying &#8220;But not everybody&#8217;s ready to make themselves at home in Charlie&#8217;s world. Some people prefer their life just the way it is.&#8221; This makes it sound a lot more sinister than it was ever meant to be. Later, after interviewing Charlie and Christopher (aka &#8220;Ted&#8221;), Ira Glass makes the claim that Christopher only <i>pretended</i> to enjoy the experience (if that&#8217;s true, why didn&#8217;t Chris say it himself?) and then he goes on to say that IE is DANGEROUS because it want&#8217;s people to leave their reality and join Charlie&#8217;s. That conclusion is completely absurd. </p>
<p>Please keep in mind: TAL is entertainment, too. Listen critically. Don&#8217;t believe everything that radio hosts say. Some of the &#8220;facts&#8221; have been manipulated to give the story greater impact.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Apr 2006 18:09:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, seriously.  It should take at least two years to get over a night of free drinks, pool, hugs, and $250 in gift cards.  And then what an insult to be offered the same deal the next year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, seriously.  It should take at least two years to get over a night of free drinks, pool, hugs, and $250 in gift cards.  And then what an insult to be offered the same deal the next year.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Apr 2006 15:17:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The mission was 2 and a half years ago but the call back to the guy was a year and a half ago--in your time frame is he over it yet then. How long do YOU think he should take to get over it?  Are you a shrink on the side?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The mission was 2 and a half years ago but the call back to the guy was a year and a half ago&#8211;in your time frame is he over it yet then. How long do YOU think he should take to get over it?  Are you a shrink on the side?</p>
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		<title>By: Christine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Apr 2006 15:12:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow mirka APOLOGIZE
Youse just said the magic word man--that&#039;s my point exactly. Admitting it was mean and leaving off calling the guy AGAIN a year later. And there were four missions described on TAL, IE wasn&#039;t given short shrift by any means but the ONE I&#039;m addressing is enough to get anyone bullshit after hearing the guy&#039;s dismissive attitude. Any current participant like yourself who would tend to retroactively justify a mission such as that with the lame example you just gave Auguste cannot see the light and would go along with another similar mission easily in the future--except maybe if you think about what people like me say enough it will stop you. ONE lack of apology 
about that ONE mission is enough to offend people who are thinking ethically about the project and the sensibility behind it. What&#039;s stunning is that you don&#039;t believe in apologies
unless you just bumped into someone but not if you possibly wrecked their psyche and life.  Why call the guy back after a year? Answer me that. WHY CALL THE GUY BACK?  He was buggin already.  Enjoyment of the feeling of power??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow mirka APOLOGIZE<br />
Youse just said the magic word man&#8211;that&#8217;s my point exactly. Admitting it was mean and leaving off calling the guy AGAIN a year later. And there were four missions described on TAL, IE wasn&#8217;t given short shrift by any means but the ONE I&#8217;m addressing is enough to get anyone bullshit after hearing the guy&#8217;s dismissive attitude. Any current participant like yourself who would tend to retroactively justify a mission such as that with the lame example you just gave Auguste cannot see the light and would go along with another similar mission easily in the future&#8211;except maybe if you think about what people like me say enough it will stop you. ONE lack of apology<br />
about that ONE mission is enough to offend people who are thinking ethically about the project and the sensibility behind it. What&#8217;s stunning is that you don&#8217;t believe in apologies<br />
unless you just bumped into someone but not if you possibly wrecked their psyche and life.  Why call the guy back after a year? Answer me that. WHY CALL THE GUY BACK?  He was buggin already.  Enjoyment of the feeling of power??</p>
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